Shot Angles

[PRIDE]

the lag is gone now but i noticed theres a glitch that stops you from doing anything until you logout. wonder if it happens to anyone else

[tournamentJESUS]

damn, so many people stepped up offering to buy the game and take it over, and we get stuck with the guy

so you buy the game and take it over, now what? do you know anything about operating a game and fixing shit when need be? no you don't, so stfu.

some of you idiots need to realize that john silver is basically going out of his way to do everyone that plays this game a favor. he can easily say "fuck you" and just go about his life but i've heard over and over that he spends many hours of his free time to get the game running smoothly. maybe showing a little gratitude would be the proper approach here don't you think sylar

[CoolkylemaC21]

Just a bit too much corruption...

[Jordann]

damn, so many people stepped up offering to buy the game and take it over, and we get stuck with the guy

so you buy the game and take it over, now what? do you know anything about operating a game and fixing shit when need be? no you don't, so stfu.

some of you idiots need to realize that john silver is basically going out of his way to do everyone that plays this game a favor. he can easily say "fuck you" and just go about his life but i've heard over and over that he spends many hours of his free time to get the game running smoothly. maybe showing a little gratitude would be the proper approach here don't you think sylar

gratitude? LOL. I paid my gratitude bro, in far more ways then you ever could. Ive put far more time outside of this game focusing on ideas/glitches and graphics etc. Ive paid my dues for this shit little game thats been going since 1997 but yet still cant work properly. If this was utanks sw would have been flipping the fuck out ten times over and you know this, but you also just tldr yourself into a lb so now its time to hop on sunnys dick i see.

lmao, operate a game. lets look at the timeline,
-sw wiggles his way into tankpit off an offer that andy and kevin refused to take
-sw timely releases tp with ut going down, ill give this to him. best move hes made with the game
-sw then proceeds to award like 100 awards in the span of ten months as well as other stupid shit happening on the fly
-i begin working with phr33k doing custom graphics for a new dtt he planned to make. he discovers how to speedhack or whatever, show sw, oh fuck, games down.
-game remains down for months and sw comes out the closet to say hes the owner (duh) and claims its a hosting issue (lmao)
-sw lies to everyone, for whatever reasons he shut down the game or unbent media (his bosses) backed out and with it said fuck you
-months later the game comes back out, still fairly shitty but whatever its all we got. months later he awards the awards and selectively holds mine and kyles, lmao.
-I get my awards I guess after he realizes he was in the wrong, kyle still dont got his awards even tho hes played more then you and has contributed more then you. too bad hes not sean tho.
-in the end, sw is running this game worse then kevin and andy other then the fact that kevin and andy enjoyed experimenting with different things to make the game more interesting. instead the only new features coming out are pay to change name and a volume control that is like 2 years too late and fairly shitty as well.


oh no, a new hater. Im just sick of watching sw struggle in a game that was made 15 years ago and recall all the bs he gave to ut staff for doing the same dumb fucking things hes doing now. utanks version 2 just with slower speeds and a shittier owner.

[Jordann]

also, sw isnt going out of his way for us lmao. he did this to fuck over kevin and co, now he cant fuck up because then he looks like the biggest hypocrite of all time.

ftr, sw is probably the last person id vote to run this game had I had a choice of the few people who stepped up and offered to take it over after he obviously showed severe signs of being incapable to even keep the game running without losing stats.

but I guess its forgive and selectively forget. Wouldnt be surprised if I checked and my awards were gone, half you line following fucks would probably agree with him. stay simple

[tournamentJESUS]

lmao, operate a game. lets look at the timeline,
-sw wiggles his way into tankpit off an offer that andy and kevin refused to take
-sw timely releases tp with ut going down, ill give this to him. best move hes made with the game
-sw then proceeds to award like 100 awards in the span of ten months as well as other stupid shit happening on the fly
-i begin working with phr33k doing custom graphics for a new dtt he planned to make. he discovers how to speedhack or whatever, show sw, oh fuck, games down.
-game remains down for months and sw comes out the closet to say hes the owner (duh) and claims its a hosting issue (lmao)
-sw lies to everyone, for whatever reasons he shut down the game or unbent media (his bosses) backed out and with it said fuck you
-months later the game comes back out, still fairly shitty but whatever its all we got. months later he awards the awards and selectively holds mine and kyles, lmao.
-I get my awards I guess after he realizes he was in the wrong, kyle still dont got his awards even tho hes played more then you and has contributed more then you. too bad hes not sean tho.
-in the end, sw is running this game worse then kevin and andy other then the fact that kevin and andy enjoyed experimenting with different things to make the game more interesting. instead the only new features coming out are pay to change name and a volume control that is like 2 years too late and fairly shitty as well.

if this is even remotely true, then it looks to me like sw owned the fuck out of everyone involved.

aside from briefly shutting down tankpit1 in order to eliminate the possibility of some idiot spreading speedhack, the best move of all time was him stepping in and putting utanks out of business

holy shit he got em.

and i think the game is operating perfectly fine right now, considering it just went through a major shakeup. the only thing that needs to happen now is you idiots getting into the map and joining the "art of watching rainfall dominate" clan.

have a nice day.

[tournamentJESUS]

also, sw isnt going out of his way for us lmao. he did this to fuck over kevin and co,

well then he killed two birds with one pebble. he shut down his competition and brought back a game we all enjoy playing.

now just go ahead and stfu.

[987]

damn, so many people stepped up offering to buy the game and take it over, and we get stuck with the guy

so you buy the game and take it over, now what? do you know anything about operating a game and fixing shit when need be? no you don't, so stfu.

some of you idiots need to realize that john silver is basically going out of his way to do everyone that plays this game a favor. he can easily say "fuck you" and just go about his life but i've heard over and over that he spends many hours of his free time to get the game running smoothly. maybe showing a little gratitude would be the proper approach here don't you think sylar

gratitude? LOL. I paid my gratitude bro, in far more ways then you ever could. Ive put far more time outside of this game focusing on ideas/glitches and graphics etc. Ive paid my dues for this shit little game thats been going since 1997 but yet still cant work properly. If this was utanks sw would have been flipping the fuck out ten times over and you know this, but you also just tldr yourself into a lb so now its time to hop on sunnys dick i see.

lmao, operate a game. lets look at the timeline,
-sw wiggles his way into tankpit off an offer that andy and kevin refused to take
-sw timely releases tp with ut going down, ill give this to him. best move hes made with the game
-sw then proceeds to award like 100 awards in the span of ten months as well as other stupid shit happening on the fly
-i begin working with phr33k doing custom graphics for a new dtt he planned to make. he discovers how to speedhack or whatever, show sw, oh fuck, games down.
-game remains down for months and sw comes out the closet to say hes the owner (duh) and claims its a hosting issue (lmao)
-sw lies to everyone, for whatever reasons he shut down the game or unbent media (his bosses) backed out and with it said fuck you
-months later the game comes back out, still fairly shitty but whatever its all we got. months later he awards the awards and selectively holds mine and kyles, lmao.
-I get my awards I guess after he realizes he was in the wrong, kyle still dont got his awards even tho hes played more then you and has contributed more then you. too bad hes not sean tho.
-in the end, sw is running this game worse then kevin and andy other then the fact that kevin and andy enjoyed experimenting with different things to make the game more interesting. instead the only new features coming out are pay to change name and a volume control that is like 2 years too late and fairly shitty as well.


oh no, a new hater. Im just sick of watching sw struggle in a game that was made 15 years ago and recall all the bs he gave to ut staff for doing the same dumb fucking things hes doing now. utanks version 2 just with slower speeds and a shittier owner.

theres no doubt that the road taken to get here was shady and full of bullshit, and no one really agrees with the handling of kyles awards. no one is really arguing any of that. i think you are making the mistake i commonly make here and expecting flawlessness and perfection, and judging vs. that. you do this you will inevitably be disappointed, because no one is going to agree with anyone else 100%. that being said, i think this version of sun wolf is more/better than anyone could have ever imagined with his history, and above all else, the guy is clearly trying as hard as possible to put the best product out there for the community. i'm sure the fact that he acted like an ass in utanks when the roles were reversed is a bit of amusing irony and a lesson not lost on him.. regardless i feel like things have been trending upward lately, and the dude is doing a lot to try and be the best he can be and make the game the best it can be. also i think you forget that hes 1 person, not 3 or 4..

the sad part here is i know you would be polishing his dick if it weren't for kyles awards. everything else you just dumped out is mostly irrelevant in everyones eyes, including your own, because like many others, you are a 1 or 2 issue type of character. you either love or hate based on that and that alone, and then build the rest of your "argument" and ammo from there. it's sad to watch really, i suspect you/kyle and sw were using each other big time in tp1; him for work, you guys for awards, and something mall related soured that in a hurry after you each got what you wanted; then he screwed you guys. and now you've made it abundantly clear that you aren't about helping the game for the sake of helping the game anyhow; its all about awards and $.

sure sun wolf has made (imo anyway) mistakes; i still think he's been a bit biased with award distribution, he should have never screwed you guys, he handled tp1 and its crash poorly, the list goes on and on. that being said, i'd love to see any ONE person do better. it sure as fuck isn't going to be me or you, and the only 2 that come to mind are kevin (who didn't have the gameplay experience to understand the subtleties and balance mechanics), and phr33k (who is not here apparently, and is responsible for more keylogging/deletion than sw anyway.. i would still love to see phr33ktanks tho, if only because i know it would be a faster/dtt like game, and i know he understands balancing as well).

there is no one else really. you think it would be better if he sold the damn thing to some idiots who don't know shit and would just put any old idea in to "try it out" and end up burning it to the ground? if anything i'm thankful that he hasn't, whether it be because hes selfish and wants it himself, or respects the game and its history enough to avert that tragedy, or whatever reason it may be. either way, the point remains; i dare someone else to do better

[Jordann]

I didnt claim I could run the game better, and yeah I did hold my tongue for the longest time. I've even been going ham lately on a few submissions Kyle could send in to maybe speed the award process up. I mean, it's only been a year and he only has close to 300 hours in tp2 and 10 cups on one ccid. Kyle dont give a fuck no more and neither do I. Is sw the best guy for te job out of this tiny community? Maybe. Have other stepped up when the game were down who played the game before and had fucking teams of devs etc. yup.

Would I be polishing sws dick if he gave Kyle his awards? I wouldn't be as critical towards his obvious trait flaws but for the most part I'd probably have been more critical towards the game if I knew my actions couldn't hurt Kyle.

Case and point, sw disrespected battlefield but continually making hacks an key logging people's shit. He was a proponent in advocating the use of bfx9 which lead to the biggest tank deletion in history. He disrespected te hard work of some honest guys who legitimately were doing us a favor, recreating a new game from scratch. Ignoring the mistakes they made, sw was the guy that ruined shit for legit players, among others like xends.

Fast forward and sw snaked his way into a deal that was previously turned down, an all of a sudden he's the perfect guy. Remember, this project wasn't started for the players, it was started over sw being vindicated by the it staff. This was his comeback, it worked. But now he's in a position where he can't think indiscriminately. Utanks beta was up for the same amount of time tp was up for, and there's still bullshit. Ironic. Has sw even put more time Into this game as what's his name? I'd bet against him.

[003]

From shot angles to the TLDR parade

[zubby]

From shot angles to the TLDR parade

yeah, pretty wack.

I think sw is doing a good job considering everything from what we know, and probably has done even more stuff we don't even know. props.

I thought the sw debate was over and settled, but I guess not. if its not, I think everyone needs to say what they need to say, take action, end it and move on already.

ANGLES:

haven't really put too much thought into this. from the screen shots ive been debating back and forth. at first I thought the first ss would allow the shot, but now im thinking that the shot should be blocked. the second screen shot should be let through. haven't had time to see in game at all tho.

[shermanfrombf]

the lag is gone now but i noticed theres a glitch that stops you from doing anything until you logout. wonder if it happens to anyone else

me
also in regards to everything else said in this thread that I only read half of cause holy shit. sw is a cockbuns swimmy swammy who ONLY brought tankpit back to sabotage utanks. and that's the only reason I hate tankpit today.

[tournamentJESUS]

sherman, my son, if utanks was really that amazing then why did it lose its audience to tankpit?

science.

[shermanfrombf]

because of temporary anger towards the dev's actions that most of us regret now.

and when tankpit was released a mass email was sent out to a whole bunch of bf players that didn't even know about utanks. anyone who played the original that didn't play either tankpit or utanks would obviously choose tankpit cause of how close it is to the original

and stop saying "my son" and "science" you fucking shrew. my only dad was wartortle from Iceland faggot

[PRIDE]

so if losing the stats was because of speedhack then doesnt that make sw a bit more likeable than what he claimed it really was. fixing speedhack from some faggot hacker was probably a good reason to take down the game

and i dont mean to dive into utanks though but im sure speedhack existed for most of utanks existance and was never fixed (although cant blame cause its beta, but if they kept the game up if it wasnt a beta that would be fucked. honestly it also gives them an excuse for leaving the dead game up for an extra year and half longer than they should have because it was beta. if it was an actual game they should have closed that shit immediately when tankpit raped its activity)

i dont know what jordan is arguing about but i cant think of anybody doing a better job than sw. maybe the utanks dev team would come close. but if they changed the game in anyway by speeding it up like 987 wants or adding gay retarded shit like instant map then fuck them

[SW]

Personally I consider TP a much better project than uTanks. It was made in 2 months rather than 5 years (and still beta). Even though it's only run by 1 person, not 3-4, bugs are fixed asap and the game runs relatively smoothly 24/7. I remember in uTanks every tournament for a month would crash because they were too stupid to be able to find and fix their bugs. And you'd have to phone Andy every time the game crashed because they weren't competent to write a 5 line script to automatically restart it.

One thing that uTanks further solidified in my mind (I already suspected it was true) was that whining and complaining is never useful. If you think you can make a better game than me you're welcome to commit yourself to it and try. I did.

If you think you can help improve the current game, you're welcome to try. Of course I can't guarantee that I'll find your graphics good enough to use.
If you want to pay for a faster server because you think the game is too laggy, you are welcome to.
If you want to pay for professional web designers/developers to help SW make the game better faster, you're welcome to.
If you think uTanks was a better game and want to help them finish their final version for 2030 release you're welcome to try contacting Kevin to help him instead.
Etc.

(Note that SW actually tried helping uTanks at some stage, before losing hope in the project completely and starting his own.)

Running the server and coding the game (server + java client + website) is a larger job than you might think. If you disparage my effort it's only because you're ignorant of it and presume to know far more than you do. Personally I doubt that anyone else in this community could take over this work (no, not even phr33k). Just look at how poorly Kevin and Andy did and they both work in software development. Nobody else here does.

And finally, no, $25 for a name change is not a price gouge, it's an economic strategy to limit the demand for name changes so that TankPit doesn't suffer the same fate as uTanks, which cost less, probably made far more $$, but was also very confusing and damaging for the game. Rest assured that SW isn't making any $ from the hundreds of hours he puts into TP.

[BLUNTZ 2 my dome]

Jordan for once I actually agree with u. and Fyi you forgot to add the specials Sw hands out now are to favorite players only

[DemonicTank]

Maby this is why SW took it upon himself to take on Battlefield to redeem himself from what Jordan posted about his past.


who knows I sure as hell don't

[crusher.VICIOUS]

So SW tries to improve game then people turn into whiny bitches. That's who's fucking this game up. If this game ever goes to hell blame your cry baby selves. I swear most of you were more mature when you guys were younger. Everyone wants certain things certain ways but all you guys bitch when the game isn't perfectly exact to your liking. Fucking cry bitches. SW doesn't do any harm to this game now no matter the past. You guys want to blame tp for utanks downfall when it was the owners themselves that fucked if up for themselves. Taking the game down was a retarded move.

SW even though I can't devote more time to this game I thank you for bringing the game back. I know I have a life and if I were to own the game Idk how much I'd be able to get done myself. I'm sure everyone would love for you to have more time on the game. Many people would love for me to have more time to this game also. But I can only do so much and so can SW. No need to get on the guys case for having a life or For putting his job his girlfriend before tp. Shut the fuck up and cry yourself to sleep every night because you don't get your way.

[shermanfrombf]

Personally I consider TP a much better project than uTanks. It was made in 2 months rather than 5 years

And finally, no, $25 for a name change is not a price gouge, it's an economic strategy to limit the demand for name changes so that TankPit doesn't suffer the same fate as uTanks

uhhhh.................

you bought tankpit and made like 4 changes to it. it's much less a project more of a hand-me-down

and how the fuck did name changing cause the fate of utanks? lmaowat

[killer]

Although this reminds me that we can have rock block again.

Im game. Rock Block King reporting for duty!

Also, shots fired from the left side of the turret, if this makes any sense. Meaning you could angle a shot if a rock is a space left where the opponent would hit the obby youre hiding behind since it would be on his right or vice versa. I remember that distinctly

[Andy]

Hey, at least SW is owning up to the community as the force behind Tankpit. That's what it is all about, really. You see the evolution of SW from antagonizing uTanks to helping it temporarily to seeking its demise to hiding behind Tankpit to coming out of the closet and abusing his ownership to taking ownership of the game and seeking real strategy to maintain the game and be a responsible developer. Live and learn. I cannot say that I want him to fail after watching him learn the same way I did. It is an agonizing process to rationalize all of these single, no return decisions.

Tankpit is a single game, ladies and gentlemen. Without investment and dedicated effort, we will not see anything better than uTanks or Tankpit in regards to Battlefield. That's why the original will always be the best.

SW, I hope you are at least having some fun with it. It stops being worth it when it becomes chore. We all have lives to live in which time is the most valuable commodity.

P.S. I do not work in Software Development, and hardly does Kevin. =)

[Krusty]

Fuck me, scrolled through, this is tldr heaven, I know how I will be spending my day in work...

[BLUNTZ 2 my dome]

so when can we pay 25$ to change name?

[HurleY]

From shot angles to the TLDR parade

The politics. I just fucking play lol

[SW]

Should this shot be allowed?

[megaGOD]

yes

[eldawg51]

yes

[987]

Should this shot be allowed?

yes, but its closer than many would probably think.. and the problem is i dont know if it should be able to hit a tank sitting 1 space diag top left of it

the real question is should the shot 2 more down and 1 over be allowed

[Molekula]

Dat shot looks good to me, but im no expert ofc..

Ive noticed the angle shots are alot less extreme since your tweaks, but saw one the other day that literally had me laughin. It looked so insane I had to tele away due to feeling dirty doing it (without intention). I was shootin 5 spaces to the left and 1 up from my tanks position, with another tank 4 spaces left and 1 up blocking my view. I was still able to dual shot the poor bugger with my shots going straight through the middle of the ally tank lol, looked absolutely mental. Am sure its not a bug or anything, but it was surprising to say the least