people move way faster than before.

[KonArtis]

yah,tea guy(blue),reygnev(orange),play now(orange),pinnapple juice(purple),all you guys like literaly 2-3 moves to pick up equipment,i doubt its me, but ive been using 08 x5,and i dont pick up equipment that fast,to me that looks like speedhack,i guess im just curious.

[Sylar]

It was me map glitching "PineapplE JuicE"

I'll usually only do it when theres only noobs in, never knew you were in or else I wouldnt have done it in front of you. Was hoping to talk to you in chat about it but guess a topic is just as good. I gave my opinions on map glitching, imo its as legit as the dtt im using.

[Meandean]

They will all say that they have mastered map glitch..

Heya Steve!!

[KonArtis]

Yah,seems part of the game now,ive been away from battlefield too long,ill have to master this yet.

hiya dennis,im sure you'll see me around.

[Sylar]

They will all say that they have mastered map glitch..

Heya Steve!!

And when I say it, its true.

[Blade]

Its speedhack Kon. Everyone in the game today plays on speedhack and are all closet speedhackers. Its not hard to play on the BF 1009 and just change the client class for s/h. Thats what everyone has done, and like dean said, they will claim they have mastered the map glitch even though they won't teleport before doing all these chain moves. Then when someone is as equally as fast as the person on s/h, the s/her claims whoever they are fighting is on s/h when they are both on s/h. But the person saying so and so is on s/h is found innocent because the only way to keep your name clean is to accuse others.

[KonArtis]

yah,the game has change alot,i know this issue been around quite some time,speedhack cclients,extra's,etc..it seems by what noticed anymore its part of the game now,zoom in and zoom out,glitches,there in every game. its built with the dtt's in self anymore. still get booted and loose fuel for anything too quick it still and thats a plus.

i dunno this subject sounds like it could go on forever,but for now unless bf hq fixes these dtt's im playing on 09.

[Blade]

Game has changed alot. But who wouldn't have thought in the end S/h would be excepted? It is excepted but everyone denies it. Everyone uses it, you can't find a single person in this game who has x5 then has a x5 with modded s/h on it. Rofl you can't tell me your going to choose to play x5 over x5 with s/h. (I just do it when newbs are in) ROFL And you expect the noobs to continue to play this game? Gj people with the mentality like sylar kill this game.

[SW]

The best way to master map glitch is to just programmatically remove what stops you from not moving multiple times at once -- AKA AS. I guess AS is fair then?...

DTT Glitch or not it is cheating. Maybe I'll fix it.

[zubby]

yeah i'd rather play the way it is and not map glitch around the map.

[divinelychaotic]

Says the one who map glitched the fuck out of everyone in the map the other day so bad that people lagged and shit, and I lagged and died because of it. Yeah, nice. I'm going to "master" mapglitch on BF-X5 1.008 where you don't need to grab equipment and shit. It looks exactly like speedhack. Or I'll just play on speedhack and see how you pricks like it. Hmm, map glitch on X5 1.008 and drive circles around people for minutes at a time, or just speedhack around people on SimplyBF or a speedhack version of X5? Tough decision.

[zubby]

Says the one who map glitched the fuck out of everyone in the map the other day so bad that people lagged and shit, and I lagged and died because of it. Yeah, nice. I'm going to "master" mapglitch on BF-X5 1.008 where you don't need to grab equipment and shit. It looks exactly like speedhack. Or I'll just play on speedhack and see how you pricks like it. Hmm, map glitch on X5 1.008 and drive circles around people for minutes at a time, or just speedhack around people on SimplyBF or a speedhack version of X5? Tough decision.

Shut the fuck up man you talk so much shit and act all mature. You're still a fucking noobie in my books, and half the aliens think so too. No idea who you are before you even joined aliens.

[Sylar]

Game has changed alot. But who wouldn't have thought in the end S/h would be excepted? It is excepted but everyone denies it. Everyone uses it, you can't find a single person in this game who has x5 then has a x5 with modded s/h on it. Rofl you can't tell me your going to choose to play x5 over x5 with s/h. (I just do it when newbs are in) ROFL And you expect the noobs to continue to play this game? Gj people with the mentality like sylar kill this game.

My mentality? Swing wing stfu you you retarded immature bitch. You dont even understand the concept of legitimate playing. Your the prick who runs from every raid, waits on map to get low than teles without shooting, and quits low or kills himself to avoid deaths. You claim you only faked from 5-1 in apps, yet you say its like 20 mil from 5-you. Therefore you faked 20 million points you retarded bitch. I swear to god, you call me out once more, and I will tear you to pieces. I am 10x the player you claim to be, I will rip you in any tournie, take a better raid, and map quicker than you will. What does that leave you with? Apps, now go back and continue your lead on thas, in my books your no better than the biggest scums of this game.

And if you honestly feel im on speedhack, how about asking kon if hes on speedhack, considering I showed him how to do the glitch. Stop being so closed minded, your one of the closet speedhackers you speak of.

[Blade]

First off, what the fuck is a swing wing? Good fucking insult you Fag bag lmfao. I will put this clear and cut to you child. If I WANTED to call you out, ID MAKE IT CLEAR. I am not the kid reppin a Perfection 9 tank that was created after the team DIED. I am not the kid who is hiding from his original tank name Echoed Dreams, because he was not only a newb, but he was called ERECTILE DYSFUCTION by everyone. I am not the kid who has played this game for 5 years and hasn't even established one tank an ANY MAP ROFL Go play other peoples tanks somemore and call them yours faggle. So now that you have realized and have faced what you have become, this illusion of you amounting to anything in this game is crushed. Why Sylar WHY DO YOU PERSIST? Why do you still play a game that you have accomplished nothing in? Why do you play other peoples tanks and claim they are your tanks and your accomplishments and your awards when everyone else KNOWS THEY ARENT. WHY DO YOU REP A PERFECTION TANK THAT YOU JOINED A DEAD TEAM ON AND CLAIM YOU WERE PART OF THE TEAM. Where were you in team battles? Where were you in raids? Everyone knows you were a dead perfection and honestly laugh at the fact you played that tank when the team was dead. The illusion in your head needs to be crushed child. You can have fun playing this game with 20 active people, fuck you can have 20 friends online, but just realize that you never amounted to anything in this game, and that you have never amounted to anything in life. Now bitch, I am calling your ass out, Tell these people, these bias blade haters, something they don't know about me. Tell them I faked to #1, do it, tell them what you have heard about how I take raids, AuS has cups ETC ETC tell them everything I have done. The shit gets repetitive. I honestly do not care about my rep anymore, I have nothing to lose, but obviously you have something to lose. And if you want to keep talking I will expose you for the true person you are, and that illusion of a rep you have will be crushed. So throw what you got at me, but make sure its new child, because I want to hear something new.

[NaS]

From what i've seen of both of you, Jordan is on Mars compared to you in terms of the general concepts of the game, raid taking ability, tournament play, pph, etc etc. But what do i know right.

[And1ballr82]

I disagree with map glitching entirely, Sylar knows this though.

[Andy]

I have never learned a single glitch beyond FS. I have also never had a SH file on my comp. It's not fun to me to have a huge advantage over everyone. The only thing I ever liked about this game were the fast paced parts like raid taking, raiding, and tournaments. Why would I want to take the competition out of that? Been beating SHers since 2.5 and don't plan on stopping now.

[Sylar]

insert wall of homosexual here.

LOL? How many times did that kid use illusion in that god damn block of choppy ass sentences? I joined a dead team? cool. You joined as a recruit to shiny. You wernt part of the team, sean didnt need you, he just wanted another quick shiny added to the site. Accomplishments? How about being recognized as a good player, instead of a fraud how decides its now cool to fake in maps because their dead, cheat in tournies because hes legit, run from raids because he feels the raidees dont deserve him. Im a dead perfection? You a dead apps player. Your not the real #1, seeing how you did it without competition. Therefore, we can claim someone who was more oldschool to you as a real #1. Please kid, I can back my shit. I rarely ever boast about myself, I find self compliments are pretty bad, but when I compare myself to you, its just so funny. 90% of the players on this forum are twice the player you are. Just because you claim legacy, doesnt mean its true. You have yet to find anyone to vouch your as good as you say you are, so why do you still believe your the best?

Listen, idc about my past names, I made Sylar because crane stole and deleted my echoed dreams ccid. I never denied being ED, and being called erectile dysfunction was more funny than insulting, for fucks sakes it was on my site you sped. I embrace the rep I had in the past, I admit what I did wrong. I dont hide behind secret covers like Aus and "neo" LOL. Nor do I claim to be oxy over aim, something your guilty of. Come play des more on your swing wing tank, and if your not actually swing wing, than holy shit you have an equal in bf LOLOL.

But anyways, come back to bf, let the juices raid you, I guarantee you wont last more than 15 dual shots. No matter who we have in raiding you.

And tth, I understand what you have against map glitching. I look at it on both sides, YES, it does give an advantage, but its not unfair. thats like saying someone with a fast connection has an unfair advantage against dial up, advantage, yes. Unfair, no. Me and and1 had quite a conversation about this, I look at it on both sides, and im not the type to mapglitch infront of someone on purpose. Usually if im filling I will do it, so it gives me the advantage while no ones at a disadvantage.

[MeOw]

wtf is map glitching LOL all i no how to do and i just learned about a month ago is the zoom in zoom out key ;\

[zubby]

LOl sylar that sounds fucked up about the map glitching part. You get an advantage but some how others don't have a disadvantage? CLEARLY it is a disadvantage if you dont use map glitch. IMO its gay w/e.

[Sylar]

lol you guys were all happy when I explained how to do it, you also had some good fun with it. What im saying, is yes, you can say its a disadvantage to others, maybe in a tournie it would be a direct disadvantage. Too bad I have yet to play a tournie since I learned to map glitch. But im talking in a normal map. If I tele away, find 6 boxes, and map glitch them, and no one sees or knows, does that honestly affect your game? I dont use it against ANYONE. I dont go to people, steal their equip, lag them, ruin raids etc.

I respect everyones opinions on the subject, im not going to be ignorant or disrespect anyones side.

[zubby]

well the last few days and last few tourneys i had annoying fucks map glitching me and stealing my eq, blocking my shots. thats why i dont like it, sure its cool to know but using it is gay.

[Sylar]

everything is gay when its used inappropriately. Its something that needs to be done correctly, and not used against others. The only way its going to go away is if someone edits it out of the cclient, I dont know what to edit out nor do I feel like editing and redistributing something that isnt mine.

[divinelychaotic]

run from raids because he feels the raidees dont deserve him.

Actually, that'd be Ted.

[TeD-BuNdY]

I havnt been on the boards in quite a while and divinely homosexual is still bringing my name up, even after I took a fuck ton of raids and did 10x better than he ever will. Find something better to do with your time seriously faggot.

[Andy]

It gives you a huge advantage when filling in a tourny. In actuality, you're gaining at their loss. That equipment isn't equally available for pickup because you're picking it all up at once. The x amount of boxes you got is another x that are no longer present in the map, seeing as there is a finite amount of equipment in the map at one time. Who knows what else you could do with it.

I'm sure you've already explored all of this thoroughly if you had a lengthy discussion with And1, but the connection comparison is horrible in my opinion. In one sense it used to be a solid comparison, but you're mixing time periods. Today, most internet speeds are comparable. Plus, you aren't exploiting connection(something you have no control over), rather exploiting the game. What is cheating? It's exploiting the game, not the connection. You can't ask someone to get a shittier connection to be on your playing field, as that problem will and has corrected itself via supply, demand, and competition in the economy of ISPs. However, it's simply immoral to purposely exploit the game in order to gain an unfair advantage. I'd argue that what you're doing is the definition of cheating.Do what you will, but keep in mind that by no means will this ever be accepted by people like me of this community, and instead frowned upon in the same way that 2.5 SH was frowned upon. BFX5 1008(09 up for debate) is now our standard, and any other exploitation of a DTT such as the use of FS, etc is frowned upon and considered cheating in my eyes.

Those of us that stay throughout the coming years won't forget. We thought BF was about to die back then too, but it kept on. Don't assume that your actions won't be remembered in the next three years, because there's a very good chance that the game will still be alive somewhat.

[Sylar]

i completely agree with you. Now make a post defending it lol. imo its in the eyes of the person whos doing it, it can go both ways. And saying connections play no part is just wrong. Look at the people with the 5+ connections, their map loads quicker, and the game processes faster. Unlike me. Sure its an advantage, sure its unfair. But nothings fair to both sides. You guys tell site players to suck it up and get dtt, its available to anyone. Well so is map glitching.

[And1ballr82]

wtf is map glitching LOL all i no how to do and i just learned about a month ago is the zoom in zoom out key ;\

LoL I just figured that out like a mont ago too.

[Andy]

I actually had a part in my post about the site vs. DTT. I subbed the "standard" piece for it. As conceited as it is, we decide the standards as a community. While many of us would love to go back to site in the same way that world leaders would love to go back to a world without nuclear weapons, no one is going to do it all at the same time for fear the next guy will still have that advantage. By the standards we use right now, anything exploiting the game beyond what we abuse by using DTTs is cheating. That being said, don't get pissed when people won't give you the credit you deserve even if what you accomplish is done so fairly. That's all. Part of what all the kids that cheat once say is true. Once you've cheated, your character will constantly be in question. This is how the world works and looking at it with a broader view of things(beyond Battlefield), you should take your actions like these into consideration in every part of your life. I don't hardly play anymore so it doesn't really affect me, but you're constantly being judged by the people around you. Don't forget that.

EDIT: My point with the connections is that it's out of anyone's control. People don't solely use the internet for Battlefield(I pray not anyways). Calling them "cheaters" for their connection is extremely out of place. I'm sure you see how I'm setting these two things apart.

[HurleY]

Whatever, "Map Glitching" is Speed Hack, can't believe you are defending it with such a passion Sylar. If i was a Juice I would try to get VK to kick your ass off the team. If you need it to be successful Sylar, what is that telling you about your play?