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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby lefty » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:22 pm

I think what's his name is done anyway because they warned him. It's funny that all this would arise as a result of other players cheating in the tournament immediately after what's his name cuts the shit. :tehfunny:

Someone had to carry the torch eh? Who knew coolkylemac would be so quick to pick up where what's his name left off?

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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby savin » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:23 pm

silent wrote:
UNBREAK wrote:What if I just play on a secret tank and record the cheater fest and send it to TP owners? Do you guys think that would compel them to make certain changes?


I believe it would, and the more that follow suit, it would be more significant. Seems to me like everyone just wants things handed to them rather than work for it. When did everyone get so lazy to play a game? Where's that tourny bible we used to worship and swear by back in bf days?

This is what i see:

Lets pph in tournys, because obviously lefty is doing something right in the main map since he's #1...with the added bonus that if we're deemed top notch by our peers, we wont have to worry about chasing kills because they'll come to us! Then we'll use the classic 'what's his name cheats tournys, so we cheat too' to justify it....SOMEHOW THIS IS A SOLUTION?

The only people defending this that i've seen are people looking for cup count, which i also think is pretty sad....


Your negativity isn't much appreciated, I didn't say this is the only solution.. I said imo (which means i couldn't think of other solutions). If you noticed in the "NO" option, it says post your idea to help us battle this consistent cheating problem. Others have, your post doesn't help us at all.


Back on topic.. So if you see an abundance of LAME's then we are to go after that target right then? As to your comment el, if it isn't on aim it won't work as if you called "meet me" only that color sees your calls. Now imagine what's his name getting mobbed, can you picture his long teleports to avoid the mob? Going to be hard to stick on him without some kind of out of the game communication.
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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby lefty » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:24 pm

Wait wait, kylemac is legit right? But he wanted that shiny cup so bad, so he let what's his name play his tanks? :lol:

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I see you watching me Jordann. I can hear you too. Voices In My Head. :tehfunny: Fucking scumbag.
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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby Nameless » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:32 pm

savin wrote:Your negativity isn't much appreciated, I didn't say this is the only solution.. I said imo (which means i couldn't think of other solutions). If you noticed in the "NO" option, it says post your idea to help us battle this consistent cheating problem. Others have, your post doesn't help us at all.


Back on topic.. So if you see an abundance of LAME's then we are to go after that target right then? As to your comment el, if it isn't on aim it won't work as if you called "meet me" only that color sees your calls. Now imagine what's his name getting mobbed, can you picture his long teleports to avoid the mob? Going to be hard to stick on him without some kind of out of the game communication.


Lol I didn't take it negatively more like just blunt. Also come get me is universal but I see that as being very confusing. Using aim is probably the best solution. I don't see the big deal with aim. And this is why, anyone at any moment could go invisible on aim and just fake being off line. Yes I see the point aim causes mobs or whatever but its so easy to fake being off line its only giving the players that actually sign off a disadvantage. But they are probably at a disadvantage anyway considering they arnt in a mob chat.
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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby CoolkylemaC21 » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:36 pm

Lefty you are honestly retarded bro. Me and jordan cant even kill each other or even shoot each other, You really must have took too much acid or something the past few years. I have no clue wtf happened to your head. . you fucking moron. Now go kill your self please. Fucking waste of life.
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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby Jordann » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:38 pm

your a noob. kyle told me he got a die down in a 3v1 last minute. and your defending shingra who needed you to cheat for his cup. Get out of here noob.

Why is lefty on this forum? Why are the admins scared to ban him? Hes just as bad as what's his name imo. He admitted to shingra cheating, and now hes discussing ways to stop the cheating? Leftys not legit and will never be legit. He was a noob in bf who got by on winning awards for teams that recruited anyone and everyone.

Someone needs to ban him already.


on topic, making a thread like this isnt the way to go. We all know were not going to stop doing what were doing so we can mob someone who might have cheated. Anyone who gets a kill will get mobbed, and setting this shit up through aim or teamspeak will cause more problems then solve.

Stop playing tournaments. Explain to teampit devs that your not playing their tournaments because of all the planned cheating. Its their game, if they don't care about keeping legit players around then fuck it. Let the faggots and rejects cheat for their pixels.

All im asking is to ban this pos lefty already, lets be honest here. shingra didnt play that tank, lefty did. Shingra is such a fucking noob he needed lefty to cheat for his damn silver, this dude can't enter the map without leftys hand to hold. They're nobodies who DONT deserve to be posting on this forum. Let them interact on the bfbb like the scrubs they truly are.
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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby CoolkylemaC21 » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:41 pm

Yes ban this no life cheating faggot already :finger:
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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby silent » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:43 pm

savin wrote:Your negativity isn't much appreciated, I didn't say this is the only solution.. I said imo (which means i couldn't think of other solutions). If you noticed in the "NO" option, it says post your idea to help us battle this consistent cheating problem. Others have, your post doesn't help us at all.


I apologize that you found it negative, but how is this any different from the shots taken at lefty in the comments above? Is the a fore mentioned not just my opinion as well? I'm quite capable of understanding and drawing conclusions as you are, I'm simply critiquing this idea, which you already deemed it to be controversial. No, I'm not gonna continue making posts like that, but I did feel it was needed to be said.
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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby X-HayS-X » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:44 pm

Someone really needs to shove a gravel truck up lefty's ass.

Savin, When you are getting hit by 20 homers a time you wont even have shields and with literally 20-30 people on him he WILL NOT have a chance. I mean what's his name can hardly take 3-4 people in the main map.
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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby Jordann » Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:11 pm

you guys are assuming 20 people are going to care enough to mob someone. Also assuming its not super easy to either tele hop away or quit for a minute and come back in.

The idea sr proposed was basically the unspoken ways during the last bit of battlefield, and it worked. However, talking about it, and making it known that it is accepted is just another way of saying freekills are legit for legit players.

Die downs, freekills, its all the same. You don't plan it but shit, if you turn it down you're only screwing yourself. But if we start doing this, then newbies will never cup unless they can bink a 95+ exp.

I miss utanks tournaments, where every tournament was fun and anyones game. How many newbies who have never won a cup in battlefield managed to win a rank cup in utanks. Fuck this games tournaments, faggots gotta screw everything up. I don't understand why lefty is cheating on tanks called iCheat that he never plans on playing. Whats the point? Give this retard another month and he will claim it on the tourny leaderboard saying it was legit, baby back bitch imo.
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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby eldawg51 » Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:27 pm

Getting out of hand, keep it under control and on topic, please.
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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby X-HayS-X » Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:28 pm

Sylar, we have two perm options. Make it so the faggots will never want to cheat again (raiding them), or let them cheat. The solution to give free kills to the highest exp might not be enough. If someone has fks lined up, all they have to do is pph. or have people just let them shoot them. The mobbing idea is a way to fix it unless players are like you and care too much to miss out on a cup or two. Hell, you can still cup with this technique.
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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby Viper Katzman » Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:36 pm

Didn't read all the replies yet, but to savin's OP...WOW :rolleyes: . Retarded idea. As El said, it'll only make things worse in the long run, and as UB said you can't always effectively combat a 4-man cheating team due to EQ kills and such.

And the poll options are kinda bogus too IMO

-Yes. tankpit staff aren't going to step in so this is the only logical solution atm.
-No. this won't work, i have another idea and am going to post it below.

I can't vote for either since the 'yes' option is retarded and the 'no' option only works if I have another good idea; I do not. The best idea I can think of is to ban the what's his name+friends, pavans, and any others who's sole intention are to ruin tourneys. I don't think there are any solutions that would be completely effective as over-policing would just lead to different problems.
As much as a lot of people hated it, the FK detection system that uTanks implemented was one of the best thing for tournaments. Sure it had its flaws, there's no doubt about it. The positives it brought greatly outweighed the negatives though. I really wish it would have been further supported and undergone some type of ongoing development process to reach it's maximum potential.

As for a "HERE AND NOW" fix however, I don't think there is one. Tournaments are what they are. Just play and have fun. You can't win em all. You're going to get screwed by cheaters a lot of the time, you're going to get your own random die-downs sometimes and get accused of cheating cause of it (see: lefty vs kylemac), and on rare occasions you're going to get really lucky and nail two legit kills to pull off something special. It is what it is. Enjoy them for what they are and try not to let the bullshit bring you down or make you rage too much.
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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby zubby » Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:47 pm

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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby zubby » Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:52 pm

racist!

lefty tho
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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby weekend_nachos » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:42 pm

As I am all for the fucking over of the cheaters, I will never accept a free kill by any standards or conditions going on within the tournaments. To me thats a dirty cup and nothing i want to be apart of.

I think the mobbings a solid idea and makes the most sense. Since everyones pretty much on blast chat, someone who can verify the tank taking the FK can be called out just once and time to rape.

Giving free kills to top pph is just garbage and would fuck over other players who are good but not consistent, or ever top pphers. Rank comes into play alot with people winning cups at times because its rank over pph.

lets say the cheater has 89Exp and is a major in for gold where two players at major who played legit are sitting at like 80 and 76 exp at major. giving free kills to top ppher to get the cheater out of gold, you now have 3 players with cups with free kills versus one player who cheated for gold, and 2 players who played legit but didnt have the pph to maintain a top spot being fucked out of their cups.

Mob the cheater is the only solid option here imo.
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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby Jordann » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:43 pm

wait, everyone is on the blast chat while playing tournaments already?
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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby weekend_nachos » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:45 pm

Jordann wrote:wait, everyone is on the blast chat while playing tournaments already?




I usually turn aim off when im in the tournaments. it lags me. But im always invisible anyways and barely talk when im playing in map normally. Im assuming a lot of people stay on or stay invisible for tournaments though. Dont know if this is verified, more of an assumption.
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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby lefty » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:22 pm

okay so it wasn't sylar. Apparently Zenta felt iCheat cheated so he went to die down on NowiwoN's screen in hopes that he would get the kill. I guess I can't really blame kyle for that. He was lieut in 16 minutes and re-filled on equipment nicely via regulator. Those 7 duals must have really made 10% difference considering shing is every bit as good at pph and had a 6 minute fill.

Shings idea to fix tournament is to not grant equipment on a deactivation. This would discourage cheating immensely - everyone would only ever have the equipment they gathered themselves. Wouldn't stop ranking kills to major and also removes the advantage gained by legit kills.

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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby CoolkylemaC21 » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:23 pm

I killed regulator like 7-8 mins in while I was corp Thats not enough time for a noob like regulator to fill his equipment. matooa said he was following him around before this too.
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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby lefty » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:25 pm

Well dude can you really blame me for assuming that was a fk? Because it was. Zenta aimed for you and you just so happened to get it. It seemed incredibly suspicious given it was in the last 10 seconds and it bumped you up from the only cup you didn't want - bronze. There was also absolutely no way in hell he was going to die in real combat.
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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby CoolkylemaC21 » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:42 pm

Yeah i dno man. If it was only me on him I would not have shot him. But since there was 2 others shooting him. And if they would have got him they would have made major and I would have gotten nothing. So fuck that
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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby Zenta » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:44 pm

lefty wrote:Well dude can you really blame me for assuming that was a fk? Because it was. Zenta aimed for you and you just so happened to get it. It seemed incredibly suspicious given it was in the last 10 seconds and it bumped you up from the only cup you didn't want - bronze. There was also absolutely no way in hell he was going to die in real combat.


I aimed him bro?
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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby zubby » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:56 pm

LOL everyone knows Regulator is a noob, if you honestly thought that was a EQ kill for kyle then you have some serious problems. Letting that shit get to you and making stupid and false accusations is just retarded. This is why the game is so fucked up.
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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby CoolkylemaC21 » Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:01 pm

zubby wrote:LOL everyone knows Regulator is a noob, if you honestly thought that was a EQ kill for kyle then you have some serious problems. Letting that shit get to you and making stupid and false accusations is just retarded. This is why the game is so fucked up.



Yes these immature kids dont no what the fuck is going on. They are in their own world or some shit. And extremely Jelly. It blows my mind how mad Lefty got over that tournament, and he still wont shut up about it. I owned that shit straight up.
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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby wardizzle » Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:30 pm

atelo wrote:
lefty wrote:Also quick side comment, what's his name missed the Crazy Waters tournament - his first absence in a while. And what happens? Kylemac just cheats for a golden cup anyway. I almost rather what's his name just took another one.



you do realize that your buddy icheat cheated right? lol. why don't you go talk to him since he's one of the sources of the problem.


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And for the record, iCheat wayyyy in the back of the pack until he made captain from a sergeant with full equipment and was able to fake happily until he got a mystery kill for major.
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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby lefty » Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:40 pm

he was in the top6 the entire tournament wardog. The fk serg had nothing and the major kill was demigodz in a 3v1...but whatever. I'm not even saying he didn't cheat just that you are blowing how much he cheated way out of proportion.

Also if he faked he would have been 99xp and definitely passed kylemac. Trust me. He would have easily shot off an extra 100-150 duals if he actually faked.
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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby CoolkylemaC21 » Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:04 pm

None of your freinds would be able to out pph me in a tournament. Lmfao
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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby Nameless » Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:41 pm

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Re: This is gonna be Controversial

Postby Zenta » Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:57 pm

This whole thread should be titled:

"The Tankpit Jay-Gayness Tournament Code of Conduct"
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