some things to clear up

[987]

1) if i'm ignoring your raid and filling, it's best to just wander off and let me fill. if i have to fill with several people chasing me the whole time, i will probably leave shortly after and you will get nothing out of it. don't bother chasing me as i fill, regardless of how low or tempting i may seem as a target (trolling the fuck out of you), you're really only screwing yourself and your teammates. if the raid is full of people who can't possibly know i wouldn't be full, i'll brb. if it consists of people who KNOW i'm not full, i'm not going to bother with the brb. just a few things to keep in mind.

2) whats up with the low level of solo play on team tanks? i dropped 7 hours yesterday and each time the map would cycle to comics or elements, it was because they had 4+ (and a bunch of tags i've never seen take raids before)... yet they would ALL leave at about the same time when they were "done". congrats, you guys rank up as a group and then avoid being ranked down by staying in a group? get better. (this is addressed to everyone other than starfox and uranium). for what it's worth i'm much more likely to do gay shit to a group of kids i always see raiding and never taking. might as well throw this on the list of things queers do to avoid certain death medals (saving that for a future tl;dr).

3) of course once the team tanks roll in, suddenly there is a bunch of pre-mining and long moving. the long moving part is also directed at the team i'm on, i would like to see them shape up in this regard as well. the amount of pre-mining yesterday was actually low (just a lot of general mining/noobs), but i've seen the comics do this on multiple occasions, and pretty much every team i've had the misfortune to be in a raid with or been raided by spends at least half the raid driving around doing meaningless shit, usually at the most useless times. again, get better.

4) use the small fuels! as im filling i try to bang out every under 200 fuel can i can find. also you guys need to be a bit more pro-active on lake cleaning. i understand its desert, but that type of lackluster effort leads to bad habits and would leave certain other maps unplayable after very brief periods of time. get better at your map maintenance skills ;\




that is all for now, i'll find something else to bitch about later.

[invazn]

I don't understand why it is a big deal for someone not to play their team tank regularly.

[987]

I don't understand why it is a big deal for someone not to play their team tank regularly.

it's basically a bitch move imo. you can raid the map, yet you can't stick around with fewer people and risk the possibility of recycling those ranks back? we all see how teams end up raiding each other, but i think its fucked up that they'll raid solo players on and off all day long, but if those players somehow manage to get a 4-6 person raid going, the team tanks are nowhere to be found (unless its some show of overwhelming force to rape the map back down).

let it also be stated that the blue team (missed opp, kuma, hyper, ruffian) are not nearly as guilty of this as everyone else, i did see them in on their tanks just taking the map on @ severe disadvantages on numerous occasions. just don't see the rest of you doing it, guess you would rather wait until victory is assured in #s?

[Nameless]

Totaly agree with sean.

Da horses take raids so we can all be excluded from that. Long moving im working on teleporting way more and honestly anyonr playing with me or against me will agree. The mindless mjning and moving over full. I cant speak for everyone but da horses are really working to get way more organized now that we have 5. At 4 we were all just trying to learn each other.

I dont always shoot mines but i destroy plenty at random times to keep shit clean. Also, i always pick up the small fuels first when im not rushing to fill. Actually iv teleported away several times already when im just filling in no hurry with half fuel instead of using half of a 900 container just to go one or two screens over looking for eq.

Nice post i dont think a lot of this is well known shit and i always expect a few long movers on a screen of 5 plus, driving is faster. It pisses me off when people pick up eq when raiding me. Ljke 3 boxes back to back. Quit moving so much lol. I wont pick eq up when bejng raided unless your not on my screen so dont worry when i teleport you can get it. Also i just now relized i am one of those guys that snags all the eq like that lol so ill stop doing that when i raid people.

I think in a five plus raid 3 moves isnt a big deal moves dont really lag me they just take longer to complete. With all that said. Im not going to tell people how to play, you take this post anyway you want. Its a simple fact though the pros teleport more often than not.

[X-HayS-X]

The way I see the team thing is if we are taking the map, and ranking, then the map rallies deactivating us, stay and take the death(s). My entire team will take one, I'm pretty sure.

My team is not guilty of that mining shit... Atelo and his comics should be a major topic. They will follow directly behind you as you're filling and mining all of your fuel...This isn't a tactic, this is being a cunt. (Atelo himself isn't guilty.)

I'm curious as to who the real leader is, because h should come out to take care of these small issues. Yesterday Quicksilver ran nonstop, then the tables turned and he didn't mind raiding us. I was wondering if you guys picked up ShingRa as a teammate.

[megaGOD]

The way I see the team thing is if we are taking the map, and ranking, then the map rallies deactivating us, stay and take the death(s). My entire team will take one, I'm pretty sure.

My team is not guilty of that mining shit... Atelo and his comics should be a major topic. They will follow directly behind you as you're filling and mining all of your fuel...This isn't a tactic, this is being a cunt. (Atelo himself isn't guilty.)

I'm curious as to who the real leader is, because h should come out to take care of these small issues. Yesterday Quicksilver ran nonstop, then the tables turned and he didn't mind raiding us. I was wondering if you guys picked up ShingRa as a teammate.

not true about the mining thing. all the tags are the ones mining you guys.

we can pick out single situations also, such as titanium last night. and no shingra is not on the team.

we're not here to make trouble, if there is a problem we'll fix it. but dont assume and single us out please.

[Jay]

Skipped all replies so I could just reply to sean's post.

1 - How hard is it for you to say brb anyway? Just click it once and everybody will get off you. Its just stubborn to continue to fill and not brb. - The reason I say brb is because if I am close to full I will not bother saying it, I will let them chase then shoot back as soon as I am full, but if I need to fill a lot still I will brb then say bring it! once I am full. Very simple, I don't understand why you can't say brb, it would take a lot less time for you to fill if you just said it rather than be chased and lagged then getting angry and not taking a raid and then making a post like this.

2. Solo play on team tanks, I agree but most teams have main tanks then use their team tanks to raid and to take raids on. I see most elements doing this, probs half of aow do this, not sure about comic as I only ever see them in mining and not really playing much. Look at wikidz, all invasions does is take raids and raid. Look as me and sensations we play our team tanks as solo main tanks. We get raided and raid. We never quit out because numbers change for the worst. I know your post isn't aimed at us but you put other tanks in brackets, why not us? lol

3. Ok, we long move some but its just lazy of us. Click to fuel rather than tele. Tele takes 2 moves, driving takes 1. Obviosly we want to use the least moves to get the fuel before the raider. If anything this makes it easier for the raid taker because if you see lots of driving you know when all the duels are about to hit you so you just tele away.

4. Could not agree more with you. I use the 200- fuels when filling. To be honest I use anything below 500 when filling. If its like 450+ then I will leave it unless I really need fuel. The lakes, I have jumped on a ferry once maybe twice but only when somebody else has first. I know its helping make the land wet but it does look bad. Who cares though right. I would love somebody to sit in the water and take 5-6 tanks shooting them.

[FakeSever]

I Have been saying this since this restarted, because i dont belong to a team or clique of old players or the new ones, im raided 24/7 ive never bitched about it, but if u killed me down to sarge from col, and your still raiding me, you are gutless. well put sean. you said everything ive wanted to say the last few months.

[Nameless]

what's his name iv seen your raid on your wikid and then come in when the tables turn and raid on demolitiin. Yeah yeah yeah you wanted to rank back up demo whatever raiding on purp then blue right after is horrible zero excuses can cover this. I dont come in on nameless when purp and orange decide to tag team the blue.

[003]

I'm kinda surprised you said some of these things Sean. I'm going to give several examples to prove you're wrong:

I have 60 hours on my team tank. That's 20 more than the next Element thus proving that I play individually all the time. I also have my main tank that I constantly play and take raids on. You were even in on several raids on me yesterday. The only reason I can think of that you didn't mention me is that you don't play very often.

Another example: the Wikidz raided Krypton down from Colonel to captain solo just a few days ago. He took them all like a beast and emptied on the last raid to stay capt. Otherwise he would have been lieut.

You already mentioned Hays takes raids all the time.

Titanium and Arsenic also come in constantly individually to take raids.

All our other guys don't play a whole lot but I can guarentee they will take. It's just like your team, there are players that can't play very often so it just happens that most of the time you see them is when they can raid with the team.

To address longmoving: I agree that it needs to stop by ALL teams. Most of the time it happens though, it's from the noobs/tags that join along. Yesterday it was from a troll tank who was purposely longmoving. That said, I have been longmoved by every single team: AoW, Wikidz, Comics, Horses. It's happened. That's why I almost always tele to fuel if it's more than a few spots away from me even if it's on the screeen. I think we should all do that.

Last thing, I agree about getting low fuels and blowing mines. I do it frequently.

Oh and fakesever: My team will never raid a person more than once unless they say bring it!, they start attacking us again, or it's a team battle. Otherwise I see no need to rub it in. Thanks for taking raids as a solo tank, although you did quit out that one time ;)

[#HP]

One thing I dont like is when im constantly targetted by a team. I dont min'd taking and fighting back against a coordinated group, but atleast go after some other players more often. I feel like if I come in on a high rank all these low ranks want to kill me first instead of the lts or capts.

Im just asking to give some of the solo tanks a break, we're not on any team and it's tough to raid if we get to major and all of a sudden 5 team tanks come in and kill us to lt, leave, and won't shoot our low ranks.

It's almost to the point where the only time ill take a teams raid is when ive been raiding them, and stick to strictly solo tank raids to give them my rank. I don't want to do this because I enjoy fighting back groups and a respectable reputation. I'm just asking for the teams to take it easy on us solo tanks, and maybe not stay in for hours on your high ranks killing us lts for fun.

Thanks,

HiiiPower

[invazn]

I don't understand why it is a big deal for someone not to play their team tank regularly.

it's basically a bitch move imo. you can raid the map, yet you can't stick around with fewer people and risk the possibility of recycling those ranks back? we all see how teams end up raiding each other, but i think its fucked up that they'll raid solo players on and off all day long, but if those players somehow manage to get a 4-6 person raid going, the team tanks are nowhere to be found (unless its some show of overwhelming force to rape the map back down).

let it also be stated that the blue team (missed opp, kuma, hyper, ruffian) are not nearly as guilty of this as everyone else, i did see them in on their tanks just taking the map on @ severe disadvantages on numerous occasions. just don't see the rest of you doing it, guess you would rather wait until victory is assured in #s?

I hardly have enough time to put hours on my main tank, why would I put hrs on my team tank where I don't even care if I get a sword on? If I'm asked to raid with the team, I'll hop on my team tank. Sometimes these raids result in a raid on myself. Other than that, I just play on Willy (which I also take raids on). Doesn't sound like a bitch move to me.

[SnYpEr]

One thing I dont like is when im constantly targetted by a team. I dont min'd taking fighting back against a coordinated group, but atleast go after some other players more often. I feel like if I come in on a high rank all these low ranks want to kill me first instead of the lts or capts.

Im just asking to give some of the solo tanks a break, we're not on any team and it's tough to raid if we get to major and all of a sudden 5 team tanks come in and kill us to lt, leave, and won't shoot our low ranks.

It's almost to the point where the only time ill take a teams raid is when ive been raiding them, and stick to strictly solo tank raids to give them my rank. I don't want to do this because I enjoy fighting back groups and a respectable reputation. I'm just asking for the teams to take it easy on us solo tanks, and maybe not stay in for hours on your high ranks killing us lts for fun.

Thanks,

HiiiPower

Aren't the Hii's a team? (bfbb) You have like 4 persons with the same theme, and coordinate raids once in.

Whenever you guys are in, sometimes it's the entire blue mob. So, I don't see why you can't rank up higher than maj when they are players on other colours who play regularly.



#justathought

[megaGOD]

^^ BuBBa Gump!

#hashtagstakingover
#gethimontheforum

[#HP]

One thing I dont like is when im constantly targetted by a team. I dont min'd taking fighting back against a coordinated group, but atleast go after some other players more often. I feel like if I come in on a high rank all these low ranks want to kill me first instead of the lts or capts.

Im just asking to give some of the solo tanks a break, we're not on any team and it's tough to raid if we get to major and all of a sudden 5 team tanks come in and kill us to lt, leave, and won't shoot our low ranks.

It's almost to the point where the only time ill take a teams raid is when ive been raiding them, and stick to strictly solo tank raids to give them my rank. I don't want to do this because I enjoy fighting back groups and a respectable reputation. I'm just asking for the teams to take it easy on us solo tanks, and maybe not stay in for hours on your high ranks killing us lts for fun.

Thanks,

HiiiPower

Aren't the Hii's a team? (bfbb) You have like 4 persons with the same theme, and coordinate raids once in.

Whenever you guys are in, sometimes it's the entire blue mob. So, I don't see why you can't rank up higher than maj when they are players on other colours who play regularly.



#justathought

No were not a team. It was never formed on the bfbb and I've never seen 4 players with my theme in. I see definition in alot, and recently he got in contact with me on aol aim. So I guess you can call it a duo, I do see a HiiiPoWeR every now and then but never for more then 3 minutes at a time. There is a blue raid at times, and most times another color or two colors come in and battle us. In those situations I'm ready to go down to recruit fighting for my color. What im talking about above however, is when there is a few people in and a team brings 6 members and kills everyone down, and then refuses to shoot back at the low ranks.

But I guess I see the train of thought now, you guys feel as though us solo tanks have plenty of opportunity to rank. But the thing is we're not coordinated except for when the 4man blue team comes in. Most times its just me calling help enemy to get the raids going. Theres a major difference in sitting on a messenger program picking one by one who to kill and trying to get a small battle going using in game messages.


Just my line of thought. You guys on teams should be killing other players on teams. Kill the solo tanks when needed to rank but constantly coming in with 5-6 and forming groups of ten + to kill everyone in the map isn't going to help keep players around. Especially when after one time of ducking out your going to have immature players come in on offensive tank names calling you out, basically telling you to quit the game.

Also, the reason we can't rank up higher then major is because once major+ a team comes in 6 deep to kill us to lt and leave.

#justmyopinion

[eldawg51]

Valid points, sir.

[invazn]

I'm so glad y'all are hash tagging. Now I can see what topics are trending on the forum. #NOT

[987]

interesting to note that what's his name and 003 seem bummed out because i didn't throw them in the exceptions "list". 003 was on his main for most of yesterday, and was in the map even between raids.. but i saw no real reason to mention a main tank in a thread about team behavior. gj i guess? obviously i don't play a ton, but i can gather some clues and figure out some people who will play solo, compared to those who are nowhere to be found until theres a raid. rome wasn't built in a day, but early returns have been poor enough to warrant this thread.

also lol'd @ what's his name "why not just say brb" and then also mentions an exception to the rule where he fills and doesn't use brb. get off me kid. also lol @ what nameless said, i've seen you tagging the blues so many times it isn't even funny and i barely play.

willy as someone who is fairly inactive i can sort of see your point, but if everyone uses that excuse it doesn't really change anything. i can't speak of you personally in this regard, but even during my worst inactive stretch (late january - early may) where i only gained about 12-15 hours, i still came in from time to time just to take raids.

there's a reason i'm over a death an hour, however if i'm playing and a team that has been raiding on and off all day is in (ofc with a bunch of tags no one has seen before, who will never take) and they decide they want to raid me down from major to lieutenant for the 4th time, you better believe i'm going to draw the line somewhere, especially if these same people are nowhere to be found when a bunch of solo tanks get together and form a raid... which is usually what happens EVERY single time in the intervals.. intervals that wouldn't even exist if you pansies stayed in the map when your 5 man raid (+ tags) turned into 2-3 people and fewer tags (because the tags are always peasants) due to people leaving.


also interesting to note that as i conjured up this wall, there are 3-4 AoWs and a tag or 2 in, and i've elected to pass on this one (even though both of my AoWs are lieuts) just because i'm not an opportunist in the sense that i sit in a chat all day and wait for numbers. will probably be in for my obligatory mugging a bit later tho

[Jay]

Sean go read my part about saying brb again. You must be able to understand what I am saying.

I then skipped all of your post and all others so I could reply to nameless and yourself.

If you see me on demo mobbing it is because I went in when there was no blues in and I was solo or only with 1 or 2 to help me. Then the tables turn so I stick it out mobbing for a little then I switch.

Now I play my wikid I haven't played demo in over a month.. so you are mistaken. I got him to gen and haven't entered since. Nameless you are a complete faggot, trying to cause drama again because you got butt hurt when I owned you in the tournament thread. You want owning again?

For real, stay out my way, you are always trying to cause trouble with me for no reason. You are talking about a few months back when I only played demo? idiot.

Also, sean in my reply to you. I wasn't getting butt hurt or crying or anything like that. I was simply answering your post with what you can do by using brb. Then defending wikidz because you make it seem like you are talking about EVERYBODY apart from the 1 or 2 you mentioned. You don't get butt hurt.

[003]

Just sounds like you're crying to me. For most of my tp time I was actually more inclined to come in and take on my team tank because I didn't want heroic on 003. Even with heroic I'll still come in on my team tank to take raids more often than my main (unless I'm already on my main).

Remember that couple week stretch when the AoWs first started and you were constantly mobbing the map??? I do. I was usually the only orange tank in the map on nitrogen and you guys would raid me down to sergeant constantly. I just don't see why you're bitching about us....even if you only look at yesterday. I started at major and ended the day at captain on my team tank.

All that said, I totally agree with taking raids. It's fun and it's part of the game. My teammates that play often do this and with the ones that don't play often, I'm just happy when they can play with us.

[Nameless]

what's his name,

Actually I am refuring to two weeks ago. I was on a secret tank testing glitches this is how i know it was two weeks or a tad less even. My team was in and even though i was in no one new it. I was working in getting tdks dots recorded for him. Anyway purple was mobbing 6-8 deep at times of course my team members still stayed in. About thirty minutes later when the purps died down you backed out and came in on demo while my team was still in. A blue mib had already started to form when you switched too demo. Come on man you take raid i know you do but that was down right disrespectfully. Not only did you avoid getting raided but i think you snaged a kill or two as well. Ask me how many times iv switched two nameless in the 56 hours my team tank has. Once and i felt bad doing it but i was asked too. We raided one guy and than i switched back to my team tank.

Ruffian has 47 deaths in 56 hours. I have 98 kills mostly all legit probably about 10 bot kills.
Nameless has 17 in 18 hours. I think 22 kills on that tank.

Its gonna be a sad day when nameless get combat but maybe a bit relaxing as well :). I have few hours on that tank because its not my main. It will be my main someday, just not anytime soon.

[wardizzle]

Remember that couple week stretch when the AoWs first started and you were constantly mobbing the map??? I do. I was usually the only orange tank in the map on nitrogen and you guys would raid me down to sergeant constantly. I just don't see why you're bitching about us....even if you only look at yesterday. I started at major and ended the day at captain on my team tank.

I remember this.

I was supposed to be doing homework and instead, I spent 2-3 hours per day for a week fighting anywhere between 1 and 5 AoWs. It was the most fun I had in Tank Pit taking a raid from a team that didn't wander off to check if the map boundaries were still there every 3 screens and whom I could count on having on my screen without having enough time to run to the bathroom and back.

However, as I remember that period, 99% of the time it was hardly a mob. It would be myself and one or two others in to have fun and a fluctuating number of AoW, with the mean at roughly 3 players.

So here is a breakdown of team behavior as I recall it:

Snakes- Mob the map with 7 and quit out if more than 2 players tried to fight back. Wait 10 minutes and resume mobbing.
Elements- Come in to raid with 6, raid everyone down to sergeant, and quit all at once to go back to Facebooking or something.
Wikids- Come in to raid with 5 or 6, kill everyone by having 75% of the raiders disappear every few screens only to scope the target when he's dead low 4 screens later.
Art of War- HONOR perma-posted in the map with ELEGANCE second in terms of map presence and a fluctuating entry of 3 or 4 others plus tags to mob for a few minutes before they seemed to get bored and went back to Facebook.

My turn to clear some things up.

Over the last several weeks, I've popped in from time to time on newbie tanks and guests to dick around when I get bored and I've noticed an overwhelming trend by teams and tags alike to flex their nuts by going in the map 7 deep and then all leaving once everyone is dead. My problem isn't with the latter, it's with the former. Are you guys allergic to people surviving or something? Remember that the point of the game isn't to rack up kills or deaths. It's to play and have fun. So where is the fun for any newbies we have when they get bombarded by a mob every time they rank up? Where is the fun for the legitimate solo players who can't counter a mob by calling in another mob? Hell, where is the fun for you noobs raiding when the offensive gets to the point that it's not a measure of skill and timing, but rather a simple numbers game where the duration of the event is variable, but the outcome is inevitable?

I remember in Battlefield, the most fun I had was when 2 or 3 of us made tanks and pushed ourselves to the limit to out-play our opponents. The least important result, in my mind, is that we still got a lot of kills. The most important is that, seeing how few of us there was, we tried to play as close to perfection as possible (see: challenge) and the people we raided took the raids much harder and much more consistently than they would under normal mob situations (if they didn't just quit at the first sight of 8 team tanks coming in all at once).

/rant.

[megaGOD]

to me the tags create the most frustrations cuz they don't end up taking raids or qlow or w/e. then it just builds up and someone legit does 1 thing wrong and flame war comes.

[003]

Seb you pretty much confirmed that you are an AoW with that extremely biased post. Just saying.

[Jay]

what's his name,

Actually I am refuring to two weeks ago. I was on a secret tank testing glitches this is how i know it was two weeks or a tad less even. My team was in and even though i was in no one new it. I was working in getting tdks dots recorded for him. Anyway purple was mobbing 6-8 deep at times of course my team members still stayed in. About thirty minutes later when the purps died down you backed out and came in on demo while my team was still in. A blue mib had already started to form when you switched too demo. Come on man you take raid i know you do but that was down right disrespectfully. Not only did you avoid getting raided but i think you snaged a kill or two as well. Ask me how many times iv switched two nameless in the 56 hours my team tank has. Once and i felt bad doing it but i was asked too. We raided one guy and than i switched back to my team tank.

Ruffian has 47 deaths in 56 hours. I have 98 kills mostly all legit probably about 10 bot kills.
Nameless has 17 in 18 hours. I think 22 kills on that tank.

Its gonna be a sad day when nameless get combat but maybe a bit relaxing as well :). I have few hours on that tank because its not my main. It will be my main someday, just not anytime soon.

I do not remember this. I remember switching back and forth taking raids in demo when only afgoo was in on his blue. You guys soon followed. I would never purposly switch to join a mob when the tables turn. Again you have me all wrong. Check my tanks in the statistics thread I have more deaths than anybody all from taking raids / mob stop trying for an argument for no reason. You are getting topics spammed with arguments between me an you an it usually ends in several others backing me up since you are wrong for doing it. Maybe you should be banned from the forums for being a trouble causer. I have honestly had enough of you. Others who argue me have beef with me from way back, you just decide you don't like me and make up some bullshit to try get an argument. Ask anybody, I play legit always have in tp and always will, I always play as the underdog and sure I do mob but I am usually first in. I never check the #s of colours before I enter. I just load and click the map if I'm mobbing cool if not even better because it's more fun although I get less points. How do you explain my bad #s for the hours I put in. Honestly you need to stop with the accusations and shut up and sit down. You have nothing on me so why continue to waste both our time? Are you playing a different game to everybody else? Idiot.

[Jay]

Ruffian has 47 deaths in 56 hours. I have 98 kills mostly all legit probably about 10 bot kills.
Nameless has 17 in 18 hours. I think 22 kills on that tank.

Confirmed nameless takes free kills.

[Nameless]

Legit as in no bots idiot. I swar your dumb as a bag of rocks. I saw yours stats what's his name your dph is pretty low scrub.

[eldawg51]

Can you feel the love tonight? -Elton John

[Cdub]

Some of you guys are really hostile over this game. Maybe you should go outside and run off some steam.

[UNBREAK]

I havent played for a while now, it's been great :).